Song in multple categories


Song in multple categories

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Hi

It would be nice to be able to add songs to multiple categories in AutoTrack. We are starting a specalist music show that we'd like AutoTrack to schedule, however the issue is we do not want to put these tracks into our main lists, we could put them in and set a format/show rule up however this would clutter our lists. Some tracks for this show however could be in our main playlist, what we'd is to be able to put the tracks into a seperate set of categories but still keep some of them in our main A, B and C lists.

At the moment, the only way I can think of doing it is setting a cart range aside from it and duplicating the tracks we want on both categories and importing one of the two instances of the tracks into both categories.
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I'd love this feature too!


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Matt Mansfield
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Agree with Erwash here, Im doing the same with our late nigth lovegroove show,
all the carts are duplicates to allow them into another category,
I suppose we should really be setting the genres up, so that autotrak can chosse slow, mellow or whatever
we wish, but ideally a simple joint category would be better.

everyone programmes in a different way, some may use the genre feature, others may opt for just decades like we do.
ours is simply split into 60's 70's etc right up to 2010 and of course we have an A category for each of those too,
a lovesongs categroy and a dance category and thats it.
32 categories used up, saving 1 for inported.....

I did ask about 1 year ago if we could have more than 32 categories.........
maybe in the next release of autotrak we'll get more !

unlimited would be nice, give us the range to allow duplicate carts for alternate categories.

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Paul Moore

HitMix Radio
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We have an A B and C list for 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s and Chart, with 2000s and Charts only having an A and B list. This way during shows such as breakfast and drive we can make sure every song is a hitter.
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we have:
50's
50's (a)
60's
60's (a)
70's
70's (a)
80's
80's (a)
90's
90's (a)
2000's
2000's (a)
2010
2010 (a)
Dance
Motown
Northern Soul
Imported
HELD
Christmas
Tv Themes
Charts
60,s soul
70,s soul
80's soul
90's soul
2000's soul
Instrumentals
Novelty
Country Radio
Country Gold

So you see where almost full and out of categories, we have specialist soul and country and dance shows, so these all need their own category and the tv themese are used in a daily mid morn show feature, so they also require a category for ease of browsing.

please can we have more than 32 categories !!

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Paul Moore

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Paul, I think the answer to more than 32 Catergoies is to ugrade to Autoracks Pro.

You certainly seem to have a lot of caterogies, we've been there too however, so you're not alone. But presently my Music Manager is stream lining the database to as few as we can get away with! We've talked about just a dozen, however we don't have any specialist music on the system. Programmes that feature Rock, Blue, Country, Jazz, Classical, etc. are play from the presenters personal CD/vinyal collection, this reduces the burden on the library.

I speak from personal experience here, regarding many copies of one!

When Wayland Radio started using Myriad I setup the software and hardware and imported a music library that had a known provenace... in that it had no duplication of tracks for the various artists is contained. There were over 4000 individual unique tracks.

Our Music Manager, at the time, started the process of allocating to catergories, which wesoon ran out of, and this is when the whole thing started to fall about our knees. There was an issue too whereby tracks that he didn't know where deleted, even though they had been Top 20 chart busters, and tunes he thought he needed in multiple catergories were duplicated and therefore add again and again and again. The most extreme example of this was discovered when we recently purged the system and found over a dozen instances of 10CC's 'I'm Not In Love' in various catergories and/or spellings. It later became known to us that the man in cahrge of our music had missed almost a decade of his musical education trying to run a family business during the mid 80'searly 90's.  The one thing we're still living with is having a song repeated in mulitple caterogires,  unless you've got very good 'station rules' you can end up with the same song in a single programme more than once. We had until recently 'Beatles' tracks dotted around various catergoires and on the odd occasion would get 3 or more 'Beatles' track in one 3 hour sequence.  Today Wayland's present Music Director is struggling to rebuild a live system with the legacy of the 'cock-up' created by the last manager.  Just to give you an idea of the task he was presented when taking on the project 6 months ago is that he has had to add a lot of music, rebuild programme schedulles, top & tail hook, add pictues and check the levels correct labelling to many of the tracks recorded. And, he is still adding music that we should be playing but isn't on the system, just yesterday he add over 200 tracks, but he is still deletingtracks too that havebeen added by the team that are inappropriate for our music policy.  What is noticiable given the last part of the above, is that when Autotracks starts schedulling the new tunes you notice them instantly, which lifts the output greatly.

Our music policy is a based on classic hits... instantly humable tunes, mixed with new music from the weekly R2 playist suggestions and the odd tune from the R1 selection, similar to guys at 'erewashsound' - great minds...

Roger.

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I spoke about this 2 years ago and was told Autotrak Pro also has 32 categories...
maybe its changed now.

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Paul Moore

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Hi folks,

At Seaside HR we are pretty pleased with how our database is going!

I spent the best part of 6 months loading the system, doing all the 'top and tailing', creating categories, styles, schedules etc and we now have 4 members regularly editing within it, and it's working well.

We have most of our categories used up; we have a Core and Alternative category for every decade except '1940s and earlier' which only has one, plus we have 'Top of the Hour', Classical A & B, Motown A & B, Christmas A & B and a few others.

We generally use the Styles to dictate the range of music we schedule, although obviously the songs are pulled from the categories to begin with. Using Styles means we have more flexibility in what we can schedule. We also use Types but not to such a great extent (except for Links).

A few more Categories would be useful but we're ok for now.

Roger, I was born in the 80s but managed to load on a huge catalogue of 60s and 70s songs; I think you need a broad knowledge of all popular music when setting off on a large project like this otherwise alot of decent music could fall by the waistside which is a shame (and may end up sounding like Heart!).

One addition that would be useful in AutoTrack is to have the ability to add a rule to a clock which effectively overrides the artist/song title seperation; we have a few shows which currently have to be manually created as they feature one artist (such as The Beatles) and with a play seperation rule in the station rules over artists we would have to create new song cards of all their tracks but with slightly different artist names (Beatles 1967 single for example). Fiddly and time consuming, but is the only way I can think of to do this in AutoTrack.

Anyway, happy scheduling!

Adam
Seaside Hospital Radio
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theres an answer to this using styles - an item can still sit in say '80's' and have a style 'ballad' - then you still put say 80's or 70's in the clock but in the show rule you specify the style to choose - this way it looks for a track in the category that has the style 'ballad'

hope this helps

Glyn Williams
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Amber Sound 107.2FM
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I did think of this Glyn, but its all extra work !

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Paul Moore

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